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Anti-Semite/Jew-Hater Westthea Replies With Olmert “Controlling” Former President Bush

Posted by mah29001 on April 17, 2009

Typical, typical anti-Semite/Jew-haters.  It would seem that a certain Jew-hating Westthea has responded in a vile manner trying to allude that the incompetent Ehud Olmert “overtly” controlled the Bush Administration.  Even though Olmert failed to crush Hezbollah and Hamas terrorists in the two wars he pathetically failed to wage competently.

Apparently it would seem that Westthea doesn’t seem to care about something as obvious as that.  If Israel were so “genocidal” as people like him would claim to be why wouldn’t Israel have annexed Gaza, the West Bank or Lebanon already by now?  Why would there be all this incompetence on the part of Olmert to do anything to protect the Israeli people from rocket attacks by terrorist groups which someone like Westthea wouldn’t mind having them becoming the targets of such terrorist attacks.

Apparently, it would seem that black supremacists like him he finds a bed fellow with white supremacists like those on Stormfront.org and neo-Nazis such as David Duke whom also believe in the same dribble.

65 Responses to “Anti-Semite/Jew-Hater Westthea Replies With Olmert “Controlling” Former President Bush”

  1. westthea said

    mah29001,

    I will be brief. I believe in love and brotherhood but this does not come at the expense of allowing liars and deceivers to continue to practice their deceit without challenge. Let’s try this at the academic level without your false assertions. Are you Ashkenazim and if so, where did the term Ashkenazim come from? You call yourself a Jew, it appears but if you are Ashkenazim, you are not Jewish. Let’s backup…… What is Jewish to you?

    After you’re finished giving some thought to the above, please comment on the writings of Rabbi Rashi of France and tell us of his prominence then and even today? What were his writings about all African peoples? Did his writings precede the neo-nazi, skinheads and KKK?

    This is about dialogue. I’m sure you will find some very extremist individuals among your group who hide behind the misnomer of anti-semitism when their doings are challenged.

    I end with this – hate destroys but embracing of the truth builds.

    T. West

  2. westthea said

    mah29001,

    Now I will respond to the nonsense of what’s been happening for the last 60 years in what some of you call the “holy land”.

    Olmert stated what he stated, just as Ariel Sharon stated what he stated. These things are now public record and for all to see, in spite of some who think they can remove it from all sources including the internet. However, I have reported on the exact words of both ex-Prime Ministers.

    The reality is that the Ashkenazim can no more annex the West Bank or Gaza as their cousins of South Africa could annex there. Either way you put it, the numbers (population) in the Near East is genetically against what you appear to believe in. The walls are built but they shall surely collapse as all do. Find the path of peace instead of making excuses. Tell your people that it is insane to speak of or even attack Iran. As it is written, “a tree is known by its fruit”. The world is looking and they are resoundingly saying that these cannot be the “chosen people” but usurpers of the birthright.

    There’s another video coming entitled, “What Nation Would Dare Attack the US”. It’s slightly hard hitting and I’m sure it will get your attention. However, try to understand it and only then can you be a positive change agent, if that is your desire.

    T. West

  3. mah29001 said

    Stupid black supremacist. You are trying to compare Israel to the former South African apartheid state? Last time I checked, I didn’t hear reports of so many South African radical groups firing rockets from civilian locations into homes of white South Africans.

    You are apparently trying to justify Hamas’ grasp over Gaza, and also Fatah so-called moderate terrorist group. Jew-hating scum disgust me to see how hateful you can really be. You state how Israel was founded by non-Jews whom converted to Judaism. But then promote traditional anti-Semitic/Jew-hating propaganda.

    How pathetic.

    • westthea said

      Mah, I suggest you focus on the behavior of some in the Israeli government and IDF. This behavior is wrong and some criminal. The siege against the area for many years is as damaging as the crude missiles fired into areas of Israel. Until you see, understand and acknowledge that evil acts do not justify evil acts, you and I will not find agreement.

      Hamas was democratically elected in Gaza and have legitimate rights to govern the area. Let’s not forget that it was the Israelis who helped create Hamas. Do you know why?

      Again, semite means Afro-Asiatic and the Ashkenazim are not Afro-Asiatic. Therefore, you should refrain from using misnomers such as “anti-semitic”. Name calling does not and can never trump academia. Ashkenazim did, in fact, convert to Judaism for the benefits they concluded it would award them.

      When truth challenges a foundation of lies, the perpetrator of those lies has no alternative but to call the truth “pathetic”. However, such words shall not prevail against the truth.

      T. West
      CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        Stop recycling Hamas propaganda. Hamas in its charter states it desires to see Israel’s destruction. Why not mention something about that instead of promoting your BS lies?

        Most of the Palestinians killed in the Gaza War were Hamas members. Roughly about 700 of them or so. There has been other violent conflicts such as Sri Lanka’s war with the Tamil Tigers resulting in the death of 6500 civilians.

        I don’t see you give a damn about that. I say the Israelis restrained themselves here.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        As I indicated, Israel played major role in establishing Hamas. You need to move beyond the rhetoric of “Israel’s right to exist”. We all know that it exists and Hamas knows it.

        Stop the lies about most being killed in the 2008 war in Gaza being Hamas. They were mostly civilians.

        Sri Lanka has nothing to do with this. Try to focus on the matter at-hand.

        Killing more than 1600 in Lebanon in 2006 (mostly civilians), and more than 1300 in Gaza goes further towards criminalizing the government of Israel. When provided with so much from America, yes, Israel should be “restrained”.

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        Stop your little lies. I laugh at how people like you accuse Israel of “creating” Hamas. But then you go about and say how “democratic” Hamas has become along with doing everything to undermine Israel’s efforts against Hamas.

        Hamas was really created by the Muslim Brotherhood based in Egypt. Fatah’s Force 17 members have been behind Hamas and supporting it through a variety of front groups such as the Popular Resistance Committees, a jointly Fatah-Hamas run group. Your little theories are typically pushed by people like you. Ron Paul, whom is supported by rabid white supremacists and neo-Nazis also echoed your lies.

        Even though Paul then went around and stated that Gaza’s a “concentration camp” helping to recycle Hamas propaganda. Gee, if Hamas were an Israeli client why would people like you rush to always be defending them? Rather this little lie sounds like the lies made up by WhatReallyHappaned.com, a rabidly anti-Semitic site run by “right-wing” militiaman Michael Rivero whom has teamed up with the International Solidarity Movement to push this libel.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        As I stated, Israel created Hamas, I remember it very well. Hamas started out as a humanitarian organization with the help of the Israeli government. The hope was to divide the Palestinian people against each other to weaken the PLO. Today, Israel tends to embrace the PLO more and demonizes Hamas. It is insane for you to keep trying the same thing over and over with the same failures.

        You invoke the name of Ron Paul, not I. You should stop grasping for straws and speak the truth. It is easy for you to call conclusions lies but unless you search for the whole truth, you will never find and embrace it.

        As I stated, Hamas was “started” by the Israeli government. Perhaps you’re too young to know and remember but I am not.

        Again, anti-semite is a misnomer when applied to the Ashkenazim. They are not semitic people, i.e., Afro-Asiatic.

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        Why do you keep on excusing Hamas if you literally believe that BS. Israel didn’t create Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood did and Yasser Arafat gave condolences to its leader when Hamas founder was shot dead by an Israeli missile.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        Hamas has just as much right to defend itself as Israelis. You cannot expect occupation and a siege to endear them to you. Israel created Hamas just as the US helped create Bin-Laden. Your own spear has turned upon you.

        When you speak of Hamas, you speak only from the contemporary sense. I speak from historical as well as contemporary. I suggest you get an accurate assessment of history instead of believing the lies.

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        Hamas wants to destroy Israel. It’s in their charter. Have you bothered to read the part of which claims that Islam would be used to obliterate Israel?

        You’re pathetic.

      • mah29001 said

        I think the more I look at the supporters of Palestine, the more I see it as how the National Socialists used the German population of the Czech Republic as an excuse to paint those Germans as victims when they were just being used as proxies by the Nazis.

        You apparently don’t give a real damn about Palestinians but prefer them to be under a totalitarian state. You never accuse Fatah or Hamas for running show-trials against the Palestinians whom sell land to their Israeli/Jewish neighbors. You don’t care that there was a report awhile of Fatah breaking up an orchrestral of Palestinians whom were trying to do good for the survivors of the holocaust.

        Black supremacists like you, along with white supremacists have something in common and that’s jealously of the Jews because the Jews are brought up to see themselves as the “Chosen Ones”. So you make up all the libel stuff against them, degrade them to nothing and instead be blind shills for corrupt leaders among your own community whom push themselves to look like the Jewish King Solomon even though they’re really not.

        I believe that’s why people like you are such bigots against Jews like myself. You’re jealous like how Cain was jealous of Adam being recognized by G-d as G-d’s “Chosen One” so you go about and degrade the Jew “Adam” in that manner. I’m not a religious expert, but even I know a typical Bibilical story like this.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        What you “think” about supporters of Palestine is simply your opinion and that’s fine. However, your assumptions of thinking you know or can articulate for me my thoughts or feelings about Palestinians are irrelevant. The “totalitarian state” that Palestinians are under is obviously the Ashkenazim state of Israel. There are bad things that some Palestinian leaders do to Palestinians but it does not compete with what those of your ideology continuously do. I’m sure we can find several cases to support your points which points to inhumanity. However, the Ashkenazim have killed and continue to kill hundreds and of Palestinians and injure thousands. Again, seek to clean your own house.

        You assume imagine so much. Not once have I referred to you as a “Jew” but rather an Ashkenazim. You have acknowledged that you are not very knowledgeable about “Biblical” matters. If you were, you would acknowledge that you are not a “Jew” but Ashkenazim. Maybe perhaps you’re Sephardim. Which is it? There none that are “chosen”. As it is written, those loved the most are chastened the most. How do you balance that? You know little to nothing about the Jewish/Canaanite King, Solomon.

        “Cain was jealous of Adam”? You certainly don’t know about the ancient people of whom you have usurped their identity. You should stay away from such subject matters of which you know nothing. I’m sure I could further put you within a box with this subject matter.

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        Funny how you lecture me on assumptions. You have an obvious assumption that Israel is an “apartheid” state. That Israel’s a “racist” state. That Israel “bullies” Palestinians.

        That’s the obvious assumption that people like you would always lie to excuse terrorism from Palestinian terrorist groups.

      • mah29001 said

        Why should someone like you claim to be the “honest” debater here when you have done everything to degrade and attack Israel in literally not being fair. This is what I believe is the problem of foreign policy for the USA, it’s appeasing obvious foes of the USA and the West.

        When I see people like you whom defend and ignore Palestinian terrorism, it just disgusts me that I’m subdizing this brand of disinformation against an ally of the USA. Pathetic.

      • mah29001 said

        I should also make an additional note. I’m no Bible expert, but I’ve been reading some Christian blogs stating that Israel is obviously involved with the “End Times”. The corrupt country you support in replacing Israel, i.e. Palestine is being supported by Israel’s Bibilical enemies which are Gog and Magog (Russia) being allied with Persia (Iran), Turkey, Ethiopia and Syria.

        People like you are obviously on the wrong side of history. The invading armies of these nations would try to invade and destroy Israel to establish the state of Palestine. But through a miracle the Jewish state somehow survives the onslaught and wins the war for good.

        In the end, people like you will loose. Palestine is an obviously failed cause which are driven by its corrupt leaders whom you shed little criticism only when they are being “controlled” by Israel. Pathetic.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        It is already clear that you are a neophyte when it comes to the Torah/Bible. I suggest you read Genesis 10. There you will find your true identity. You are of this “Gog and Magog” that you mention here. You’re Ashkenazim and get your name from your forefather, Ashkenaz (Genesis 10). Ashkenaz’s father was Gomer and the grandfather was Japheth the Gentile which you refer to as Goy. Out of this branch came Gog and Magog. In fact, most of your people who first settled in Canaan/Palestine/Israel came from Russia and their first government was communist. Also, it was Russia that proposed the establishment of the state you call Israel today. What I have just shared with you is from the Torah. Now, let’s go to what Christians call the New Testament. In Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 Yeshua (Christ) refers to you, the false Jews, as being of the “synagogue of Satan”. It is what it is. The land has rejected your group and its ideology, in spite of the billions of American and other dollars that have been put forward to create a false nation with a group of European imposters mascerading as the seed of Abraham. That which makes “desolate” shall not stand.

        War is not a “miracle” but PEACE is. Find that path.

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        You know what westthea, apparently you would like to spin Bible prophecy toward your anti-Semitic connotation.

        Christian and even Torah predictions have stated that Russia is Gag and Mogag. Stop your little anti-Semitic lies. It’s no wonder you’re this anti-Semitic. You believe that Jews are the cause of the world’s problems and the only way the world would be “liberated” is through their extermination.

        No, Jews are not part of Gag Mogag. It’s people like you whom are Gag and Mogag’s Useful Idiots pushing for the destruction of Israel. You lie about the Bible to spin it in your anti-Semitic favor.

        It’s you whom are a neophyte when it comes to Torah/Bible prophecies.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        As I said, you’re a neophyte in such matters. You have been raised believing certain things and would prefer not to acknowledge the truth if it hit you up side your head. Well, here it is:

        Genesis 10:2-5
        The sons of JAPHETH; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. And the sons of Gomer; ASHKENAZ, and Riphath, and Togarmah. And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. By these were the isles of the GENTILES divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

        As you can see, Ashkenaz is related to Gog and Magog, not Abraham. You’re Ashkenazim, a Gentile, not a Jew. You have been spinned all your life and I am here to bring you the truth.

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        Knock off your little attempts westthea. You want a world without Jews. You literally believe that the Bush Administration was “controlled” by Israel and all that other kind of crap.

        Please. Stop trying to lecture toward me. You’re a neophyte. You should not be lecturing me about it. I see an obvious hatemonger inside you trying to justify every cruel action against Israel and anyone whom supports it. To you, Israel should be destroyed. That anyone whom supports Zionism is “bankrupted”.

        You’re hatemongering rhetoric certainly exposes where you certainly align. You certainly don’t care if there is a second holocaust against the Jews. You’re attempts to convince me are quite feable and pathetic.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        You’re doing as I expected. You’re a descendant of Ashkenaz from which you get your name, Ashkenazim. You are not a Jew but a proselyte, a usurper of the identity of the people of the book. Yes, and as I stated, you are a neophyte in these matters. You’re out of your league. You can’t even articulate what you deem to be the half truths that you indicate I provide. You can call me a “hatemongering…….”, black anti……. but you cannot prove or show any of it. Zionism is quickly on its way out.

        Here’s more for you to chew on and remember, you’re not a semite but a European with a bad and losing attitude:

        Israeli proxy gets busy to silence Americans
        Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:10:00 GMT

        An American academic is to be prosecuted for drawing parallels between the plight of Gazans and that of the Jews who suffered under Nazi rule.

        Jewish Sociology and Global Studies Professor William Robinson of the University of Santa Barbara in California sent the electronic post entitled ‘Parallel photos of Nazis and Israelis’ to 80 students in his class, Ynet reported on Thursday.

        The message, mailed during Operation Cast Lead, enclosed 25 photos of Nazi victims and equated their predicament with that of the war-battered Palestinians.

        The email also included an essay that stated, “Gaza in Israel’s Warsaw – one big concentration camp for Palestinian… What we are witnessing is the slow process of genocide.”

        Two Jewish students immediately dropped the class and filed a formal complaint against Robinson with the Academic Senate Charges Committee. The 50-year-old professor has hired an attorney and his hearing has been slated for May 14.

        Professor Robinson has explained in his own words that the issue at hand is that pro-Israel lobby groups have long been exploiting the term ‘anti-Semitism’ to push forward the goals of political Zionism.

        “These students did not even accuse me of doing anything which we would consider anti-Semitism — discrimination against Jews, against the Jewish religion and so forth,” he told Counterpunch in an interview.

        “They said openly and outright that the professor introduces material which criticized the state of Israel and that equals anti-Semitism,” he continued.

        Various student and academic groups in the United States have come to Robinson’s defense and have described the motion against the California academic as “a clear attempt to silence the criticism against Israel”.

        Three weeks of Israeli airstrikes and a ground incursion resulted in the death of over 1,350 Palestinians and the injury of nearly 5,450 people — most of them civilians. Thirteen Israelis also died in the operation.

        The carnage also inflicted more than $1.6 billion in damages on the Gazan economy. …………..

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        Please don’t lecture on what my heritage is. You’re quite poor at doing it. I am not an Ashkenazim Jew at all. Apparently you don’t even know me at all but instead promote your own brand of bigotry.

        Just shut it with your lies. You’re not welcomed here with your brand of disinformation.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        You state, “I am not an Ashkenazim Jew at all”. Pray tell, which group are you, Sephardim or Ashkenazim. You have already indicated that you’re not Ashkenazim and if you are to be believed then perhaps you are Sephardim. Are you?

        My assumption is that since you have distance yourself from being Ashkenazim, my next question is, do you agree that the Ashkenazim, basically, did not descend from Abraham? This is a discussion of academia, therefore, please don’t respond with the rhetoric.

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        Please. I don’t really fall under either specific Jewish group at all. But apparently you like to box me in, to discredit the founding of the Jewish state of Israel.

        How pathetic that you sink this low. Last time I checked, I don’t seem to have that much of any Askhenazim ancestry at all.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        It is not my desire to “box” you in, rather to get you to think beyond what you were trained to think. You have acknowledged that you’re not Ashkenazim (false Jews). You have also implied that you are a proselyte, a convert to Judaism, meaning that there is no genetic link to Abraham and by extension, Jacob.

        You will not understand this but “The Jewish State” is not a place. If you were to approach this from the religious perspective, it is written that there was an “everlasting covenant” but it was conditional. What was that covenant and what were the conditions?

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        No, you are trying to pin me in a box. You are telling me lie, after lie after lie. You always see Israel as the “aggressor”. That’s just sad, at the same time you also said that Israel “created” Hamas but then go about and defend Hamas when its convenient for you to do so.

        I seriously think you supporters for Palestinian Nationalism have serious dishonesty issues. Always telling either a lie or a half-truth about Israel.

      • mah29001 said

        Here’s a list of lies by PLO-Hamas terrorists you’d obviously believe in:

        http://www.take-a-pen.org/english/encyclopedia_E.html

        I’m beginning to notice an obvious pattern of dishonesty among supporters for Palestine.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        Thanks for the reference. Be aware that the truth is somewhere in between the points listed.

        Few realize that the first suicide bombings to be carried out in Palestine were carried out prior to 1948 by Ashkenazim gangs against British troops in the area.

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        “Ashkenazim gangs against British troops”

        There you go again. Always trying to blame Ashkneazim gangs. So what, now you support the British should have remained in its British Palestine partison? That the British should have stayed there. Funny thing how you seem to also go about and fail to give criticism to Palestinian suicide bombers against Israeli citizens.

        Those same leaders of those gangs you seem to demonize Israel for supporting ironically are appeasing people like you with groups such as AIPAC to support not-so-moderate terrorists in Fatah. Pick up the book Breaking from the KGB. I’m sure there’s a reason why there is always much disinformation against Israeli leaders promoted by people like you. Even though you widely ignore that these “evil” Israeli leaders are simply appeasers whom turn their backs on Israel.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        It is your job to provide all of the negative aspects of Palestinians as you possibly can, not mine. You appear to be so caught up in your learned dogma and hatred that you cannot accept the fact that the gang in which Yitzak Shamir was a part of consisted of suicide bombers, i.e., terrorists, or do you call them freedom fighters?

        You continue to refer to yourself as a “Jew”. You are of the Judaic faith but that does not make one a Jew. What is Mah’s definition of a Jew?

        Regards to the KGB, don’t forget that it was Russia that first promoted the establishment of the state of Israel to the League of Nations, later to become the United Nations. Also, who sold US nuclear secrets to the Soviets? It wasn’t a Palestinian. Who is getting arrested for spying in the US military on behalf of Israel?

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        So you personally act like how innocent the Palestinian leaders seem to be when they really have stolen and never given anything damn about their own people? It’s quite clear that you certainly lie to me and accuse me of hating “all” Palestinians. That’s a lie.

        How is it appropiate that Palestinians be occupied by Communists and Islamists from Fatah and Hamas? Apparently to you, you don’t seem to really care. Do you care that Fatah publications daily attempt to indoctrinate Palestinians? How about PLO forces dancing on the streets when 9/11 was happening only to have Arafat in a PR move backpeddle on that?

        You are certainly quite dishonest. You claim I’m the one whom is “purposely” portraying Palestinians negatively. But you have no problem portraying Israelis negatively. You’re nothing more than a big hypocrite whom states Israel has no right to defend itself but Hamas and other terrorist groups do.

        What a pathetic hapless soul you really are.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        There is nothing else to say to you. I have shown why you aren’t a Jew and why you should seek peace instead of perpetual victimhood craving for more bloodshed.

        I rest……

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        So you personally criticize me in this manner. Really mature. I know the fact that I am Jewish. I was born into a Jewish family. Please get over this.

        Funny how you accuse me of promoting negative views on Palestinians, but you have no problem with you promoting negative views against me, Jews or Israelis. Pathetic. Grow up. I bet a five-year-old can debate better than you than throwing insults, lies and half-truths.

      • mah29001 said

        Really. You make me laugh at how stupid you seem to be, and quite ignorant. Jewish and Christian Prophecy predicts that Israel’s enemies-Libya, Turkey, Russia, Iran, Egypt and Syria would all converge against the Jewish state in total war only to loose.

        You are on that losing side. History will look down on people like you with shame.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        As I said, I rest……..

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        No, you rest in stop attacking me in this manner. You can’t stand one moment in attacking Israel in this negative manner. I’m Jewish so there and shut it.

        I can’t help but wonder why there are so many black anti-Semites like yourself there as there are whites. Pathetic. Just two sides of the same coin of hate.

      • mah29001 said

        Having people like you literally come out to admit that you hate Israel and Jews, exposes where you align yourself with. I am part Chinese and also part European making me Eurasian. There is no Ashkenazim blood in me.

        You apparently don’t really know me but criticize and harass me trying to find an Ashkenazim under every stone you turn.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        Okay, you indicate you are a mix of Chinese and European. Which European ethnic group are you of? What was the language of your grandfather and grandmother?

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        A bit Irish and only some very minor Russian blood that’s about it. Apparently you like to suggest what an “expert” you are on Israel. Trying to allude and discredit the founding of the Jewish state.

        Did you care that any non-Jew whom converts to Judaism is an automatic citizen of Israel? Did you care to mention that Palestinian Nationalism was originally founded by the Axis Powers and was outright supported by Adolf Hitler?

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        I am very much aware of the varied sides on which persons within various countries fell as relates to Hitler. Many in the US government supported him, as well as many of the Ashkenazim elite. This would have held true for some Palestinians as well. However, it is naive and inaccurate to paint with such a broad brush.

        You are a convert to Judaism but you are not a Jew. It appears you believe ones conversion to a religion automatically gives that person right to land and other resources. Correct me if my assumption is wrong. Don’t you find some things terribly wrong with this concept?

        As you know, there were thousands of Palestinians in the area for a very long time prior to the 1948 establishment of the Israeli state. It is natural for the occupants of an area to be quite upset and even militant when a few million gain rights to land simply because they decided to convert to Judaism. This is one of the key tenets of Zionism. This is why it is the worse form of racial hatred and so repugnant to all intelligent and fair minded people.

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        The land of Israel and Jordan have been promoted in the Torah and the Bible as Jewish land given to the Jews by G-d. The Jews gave up a great number portion of land to the Palestinians so that they can be happy and have a state of their own. But the Palestinians do not want any portion of any land rather they want all of Israel to be replaced as Palestine.

        Do you not seriously believe there is something wrong? And also don’t accuse me of being a convert, I was born into the religion. My mother was the convert.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        You’re correct, there are some Palestinians and Arabs who are not reasonable. They too must be dealt with in an intelligent way.

        I haven’t heard any Palestinian leader proclaiming they “control America” as I have with some Israeli leaders. If there is so much control then I demand a better job be done with the vast support my tax dollars provide.

        If your mother is not Jewish, neither are you. Your religious faith is Judaism but you are not a Jew.

        I support peace, not the Israeli siege and demolition of property; not Palestinian suicide bombing.

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        Knock off your little rantings westthea. I was born into the religion. You are nothing more than a hapless Jew-hater. You literally believe that Jews “control” the USA and then accuse me of not being a Jew when I certainly know that I am one.

        You are quite pathetic. You pretend to claim that Palestinian and Arab leaders are not reasonable but you rarely criticize them. You have more of the gall to criticize Israel instead and ignore all of their crimes of corruption against their own people. Do you care that Yasser Arafat stole millions of dollars that were meant for his own people but gave it to his wife whom was sitting comfortably in Paris, France?

        How about Palestinian Television daily trying to indoctrinate Palestinian people into hating their neighbors when the same Palestinian Authority state-run television claims they pretend to recognize Israel’s right to exist? Do you care the same “Israeli Lobby” supports the phony moderates that refuse to seek Israel’s right to exist? You know the American Israeli Political Action Committee (AIPAC)?

        Apparently you do whatever you can to dehumanize Israel and also anyone whom supports it. You’d know that you’d be siding with the wrong side of history. Your obvious hostility toward me as a Jew and then degrading me exposes that as well.

  4. mah29001 said

    I also didn’t hear any reports of even the radical neo-Communist African National Congress encourage so much dehumanization of white South Africans like the garbage going on with Palestinian TV. Even though one time Mandela was caught on tape advocating to kill white South Africans that’s the only open hatemongering which he’s been caught promoting.

    The apartheid government of South Africa was a canary for which open hatemongers like yourself could use in revisionist lies against Israel. I don’t believe that open Communist shills like Mandela should have been South Africa’s future. Rather, South Africa should have become a Capitalist country and become one of the most productive African countries on the continent since it was also a former British port colony. The fact that crime, and deceptive racist rantings from the government has denegraded society to self-degeneration.

    Apparently you wish for a similar corrupt Islamo-Marxist government of Palestine to come about in the near future.

    • westthea said

      Mah,

      You mention “radical neo-Community African National Congress”. Study your history and you discover that the Israeli state was proposed by and started by Communists.

      All political groups have some “garbage” within them, this includes the Israeli government. Your new Foreign Minister, Mr. Lieberman is one example.

      Resistence must be equal to the crime perpetrated against the persecuted. Mr. Mandela was right to apply commesurate actions against Apartheid. The same is true with the Palestinians. The walls that you support in Palestine shall not stand, they are out-of-step with history.

      Those who speak the truth you call “haters”. How many persons of the ANC are in prison for spying on the US attempting to get military secrets? Jonathan Pollard isn’t the only Zionists imprisoned for spying on the US on behalf of the Israeli government.

      You spew much nonsense but South Africa is what it is. The days are long gone when the best friend of Apartheid was Israel. It is a bankrupt ideology just as Zionism is.

      Crime is present in all nations, is it not? You’re beginning to sound more and more like Rabbi Rashi. Perhaps we should discuss his ideology. Are you game for this? You know he makes David Duke look like a choir boy. In fact, his teachings are the foundation of the KKK and neo-Nazis. Of course, most of them don’t know that they were taught their ideology by a “Jew”, i.e., Ashkenazim rabbi. These truths are like hot coals of fire upon your head and I’m sure you would prefer not to tread on this topic.

      I wish for peace in Palestine, not what you’re promoting which is more of the same. Find some love within yourself.

      T. West
      CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        Likely, you do not pray for peace but keep on excusing for a second holocaust. How is it appropiate for Israel to live in peace with those whom refuse to see its rights to exist?

        Why is it that Israel’s the only nation on the planet to suffer this? How about those African countries that a black nationalist racist like you look up to. Most of them are dictatorships or corrupt countries whom pretend to have democracy.

        The Israelis allow Arabs to vote and become citizens. That’s apartheid?

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        You need to remove the crutch of the holocaust from your mind. As we well know, almost 100 million Africans died enroute inland to the coast of Africa for shipment into enslavement. They are not taking land and killing whites because of it. Also, some of the elite among your own were involved in perpetrating the pogroms against the Ashkenazim of Western Europe. It was the opposite in Russia’s Bolshevik Revolution.

        Your presumption that “Israel’s the only nation on the planet to suffer” mass killings is far from the truth. In fact, some of your own have been key players in promoting mass killings against others.

        There are good dictatorships and bad ones. Kings are dictators but they are not all bad. The objective is to have governments that are concerned for those they govern. You error in presuming that Israel has an acceptable democracy. We know this is not true.

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        It’s ironic that you tell me to remove how Jews suffered during the holocaust. Palestinian apologists like you have used the holocaust to manfacture lies on how Palestinian land was stolen from them.

        Truth is the Palestinians didn’t want Jews there at all, and in fact the Axis Power especially National Socialist Germany supported the rise of Palestinian Nationalism prior to the Soviets taking control over it.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        Even you know that Palestinian lands are being stolen from them to this very day. You build a wall upon land that is Palestinians’ and proclaim innocence. Yes, some Palestinians did sell some land to the Israelis, and yes, some land was taken militarily.

        About those who suffered during the holocaust, I am not asking you or telling you to remove how they suffered but to be accurate and truthful in your equating of that suffering. I clearly stated that nearly 100 million Africans died while enroute from inland of the continent to the sea for shipment into enslavement. This far exceeds your holocaust. Even today, millions still suffer as a result of it. Palestinians have lived with some members of your group for a long time in peace. It is the Zionists who presents the unacceptable problems.

        Germany, during WWII, also supported the establishment of what you call a homeland in Palestine. For example, Germany would give some of the Ashkenazim a one-way ticket to Palestine, complete with a gun, ammunition, and a tractor in exchange for them leaving all else in Germany. This whole affair was about far more than you know or understand. How many of your leaders today would acknowledge that some powerful elite among your own participated in orchestrating the pogroms? They had a purpose behind it but it was obviously very sinister indeed. You and others like you need to learn to stop being used.

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        The wall is to keep out suicide bombers. You keep up with your revisionist crap. Simply disgusting that you can suggest Israel created Hamas, but then defend Hamas when it happens to win an election and say how “democratic” Hamas is.

        Yeah, the National Socialists won election like Hamas, but they were hardly democratic. Napoleon III came into power via election, and he re-established the Napoleonic Empire which his uncle created. Stop defending those whom would obviously wish to do this kind of crap. Hamas is one of those groups whom would certainly have such a nefarious agenda like this.

      • westthea said

        The wall can never keep bombers out. All walls come down. As I said, find the path to peace.

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        Stop promoting disinformation. I have had it with you hatemongering anti-Semites for what you really are.

        Prior to the building of the Security Wall, Hamas along with Fatah in the PLO-led Intifada led series of suciide bombings against Israeli citizens. Likewise Seocnd Intifada. Strange there are little reports of suicide bombings in Israel because of the wall which people like you whom hate the Jewish state want to see further death.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        Find peace with your neighbor and stop the 60 year siege against them. You cannot keep people in cages and treat them as your cousins in South Africa treated Blacks and expect to not be bombed. You sew a seed of hate you reap a crop of death.

        The message is clear.

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy
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      • mah29001 said

        Another outright lie. The Israelis can’t find peace with their neighbors is that most of their neighbors don’t recognize their right to exist. That’s the whole point why they launch wars against the Jewish state.

        But apparently you don’t give a damn about that.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        I prefer not to repeat myself but for you I will say it again. You and all of the other confused zionists need to get over the “right to exist” nonsense. You exist, do you not?

        You will either find peace or you shall no longer exist.

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        It’s quite apparent that you don’t care that most of Israel’s neighbors don’t see Israel’s right to exist. Perhaps if they were the ones whom were more tolerant a possible Biblical prophey of them loosing a possible future war with Israel would not likely ever happen.

        You apparently ignore that, and you don’t give a damn.

  5. mah29001 said

    Keep up your revisionist BS. Israel isn’t an apartheid state. It’s just done as revisionism for PR purposes. Tell me, do you give a damn that most of the Middle Eastern nations are apartheid states which people like you support?

    How about Jordan where an elite Arab class gets to have all the property while Arabs whom do not belong to that class don’t? How about Turkey’s long standing denial of its holocaust against the Armenians? How about reports of Pakistan allowing the Taliban persecute Pakistani Hindus and Christians?

    The only ones whom are bankrupt are those whom justify Palestinian terrorism. By alluding to Zionism to be “racism” is bullshit. You hate Jews and Israel so much, why come and bother with someone whom would not likely listen to your Jew-baiting rantings?

    • westthea said

      Mah,

      When a lie or lies have been told or written, it is proper protocol to correct it. At one time, those who were demonized in books written by the likes of Rabbi Rashi and others who came after him, had little recourse for correcting the slander and lies. Today, that is not the case. We are making the crooked straight. You can valiantly contest it but you shall not prevail unless you come with truth. It takes far more than words such as “Israel isn’t an apartheid state” to convince this generation of the opposite of what they are observing with their own eyes. It is people like me who rattles you and the foundation of falsehoods you have established yourself upon.

      Look within your own house, not Jordan, Turkey and others. Israel receives more than any other nation from America. As it is written, “To whom much is given, much is required”. When the evidence is convincing, it is not the right action to call out the names of other nations that might or might not be offenders but it is right to correct that which is wrong within my walls. Why your walls? As I have indicated, we provide billions of dollars to Israel and part of what we have received in return are your spies who steal and provide military and other secrets to Russia, China and others.

      We know Zionism is the worse form of racism. How so? Any group who claims something belongs to them because “God promised” it to them is the equivalent to insanity. When it is promoted as acceptable and then enforced through military actions, it is criminal.

      No, I do not “hate Jews”, I hate lies and deception. I did not come to you to “bother” you. You commented on my videos using terms that do not represent me. I will defend the truth. Are you prepared to defend those things that you stated which were lies?

      T. West
      CART/AfriSynergy

      • mah29001 said

        No. You’re the one whom is telling the lies. Pathetic. People like you want peace in Palestine but that also means having Israel be with “moderate” terrorists whom refuse to recognize its right to exist.

        Pathetic that you also promote and excuse Hamas.

      • westthea said

        Mah,

        Haven’t you learned by now that name calling does not get you anywhere with me?

        Hamas was elected democratically. If you want to challenge that, please do so and I will prove you wrong and a liar.

        Hamas was, partly, established by Israel to wreak havoc on the PLO. Do you want to challenge this? I come with the facts and you come with the empty hyperbole.

        Find peace instead of your perpetual state of war. Israel exists, the PLO and all Arab states know that. Stop bitching about they said “I don’t recognize your right to exist”. This is so infantile.

        T. West
        CART/AfriSynergy

  6. mah29001 said

    Westthea,

    I find it quite ironic that you accuse Israel of “creating” Hamas. But then suggest Hamas democratically elected. What you say is mostly bullshit. That’s about it. I always find it that the staunch defenders of Palestinian nationalism are the utmost total liars.

    How the hell is it that you can suggest Israel created Hamas but then defend the very same organization when it came into power in Gaza? This is just pure pathetic manner which people like you are caught in.

  7. westthea said

    Mah,

    I have provided you with the facts, the truth. You can either accept or reject it. You see what the Torah says about the Ashkenazim and it is clear you are not Jewish but a proselyte. You can speak evil of Russia but did not realize that Russia is you, Gog and Magog is you. Your parents never taught you these things but I have.

    I wish you peace and those you love peace. It has been a pleasure dialoguing with you.

    T. West
    CART/AfriSynergy

    • mah29001 said

      Sorry, but what you said isn’t obviously the truth. You only tell lies and half-truths. Your little promotion of how Israel should end should certainly expose where you align yourself. That you don’t want to see peace.

      You openly lie about that as well when you excuse Hamas’ terrorism, then accuse Israel of founding it. You lie on that as well.

  8. westthea said

    Mah,

    I would like to give you the last words. Please, explain what things of what you state are half truths are the truth that I have stated. You have indicated what you believe are lies. Myself and others would like to hear you articulate those things that I have stated which are true.

    T. West
    CART/AfriSynergy

    • mah29001 said

      Please. Don’t lecture to me about your little lies. You always lie on how Israel is the aggressor. That you state Israel created Hamas, but then you went to defend Hamas by saying it was democratically elected.

      That’s downright pathetic and low of someone like you to say something like that and hope to get away with it.

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